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Accurate Arms #9

Disclaimer: All of the following powder charges were taken from reloading manuals produced by gun powder companies or other reloading manuals that may vary in powder charges greatly. Various components combined, make all the difference in the world. I am not responsible for your actions. Always refer to official reloading manuals when reloading. As usual, I must say that this information is what works for me. Use your own common sense. You are responsible for your own actions!

AA #9 may be the most forgiving & versatile 357 Sig powder on the market. I fired over 1500 rounds testing this pistol powder.

1.     AA #9 is a very consistent powder. Even though I use an outside chronograph in the constantly changing weather of Oregon (cloudy, sunny, and rainy all within a 30 minute period), the standard deviation of #9 generally ranges between 5 and 15.

2.     #9 fills the case very nicely and provides some level of bullet setback security (bullet cannot slip all the way into the case) since it works well as a compressed powder. As a result, I do not feel the need to use a light cannelure bullet groove to help hold the bullet in place when using this powder.

3.     An accidental double charge would spill out of the case to warn you.

4.     #9 is a medium flash powder, depending on how it's loaded and what length of barrel it's fired from. My newest lot of #9 is cleaner than the old stuff I was using.

5.     #9 produces very good accuracy.

Accurate Arms Company 800-416-3006; www.accuratepowder.com

Accurate Arms distributes the accurate powder line. The #9 label states, "Accurate #9 Smokeless Powder -- A ball-type pistol powder. Best in .357, .41, .44 magnum. Excellent powder for the .30 M-1 carbine and .410 shotgun". Well, it looks like the 357 Sig fits right in there with the other well-known magnum calibers.

Note: The Accurate Arms Reloading Number 2 Book states that 13.0 grains is the maximum powder charge, while the Speer's Reloading Manual (13th Edition), states that 14.6 is the maximum charge. Accurate Arms recommends a max of 13.0 grains based on the components they tested in their lab environment. Speer stated that their loads were developed on standard test equipment and did not exceed the 40,000 psi maximum. So if you approach the Accurate Arms 13.0 maximum and beyond, be very careful. The individual components you use can make a huge difference! With hard jacketed bullets, I would stick with a maximum of 13.0 grains as AA recommends.

NOTE REGARDING DIFFERENT LOTS OF #9: With my newest lot of #9, I cannot load less than 11.7 grains, otherwise the load becomes very inconsistent. With my old #9, I could drop to 10.7 grains and it worked flawlessly. Also, with my new #9, I cannot put more than 14.0 grains in the case, as opposed to my older lot where I could put in 14.6. The velocities of the newer lot are also roughly 25 to 35 fps slower. As a result of these differences, I have removed my light loads less than 11.7 grains, to cut down on confusion.

A brief quote from the Accurate Arms Reloading Book:

"Reports from the field praise the accuracy of this round [the 357 Sig]. Our #9 has proven to be well suited for this round. This is without a doubt the most ballistically consistent handgun cartridge we have ever worked with. The standard deviation for every single load developed was less than 10 FPS. The average SD was 5 FPS. This is impressive for any cartridge but especially so for a handgun. The small bottleneck and high working pressure of the round must both contribute to this amazing consistency."

Note: OAL refers to Over-All Length of the cartridge.

357 Sig OAL normally runs between 1.120 to 1.140, based on various reloading manuals and from measuring various factory ammo. 

Glock 31 with standard 4.5" barrel

Starline brass

Winchester primers

West Coast 124 grain flat point bullets

OAL: 1.137

Grains

High Vel.

Low Vel.

Extr. Sprd.

Avg. Vel.

Std. Dev.

Avg. P.F.

Max. Brass Diameter Exp.

11.8

1200

1178

22

1191

8

148

0.424

12.0

1235

1210

25

1226

9

152

0.426

12.2

1260

1232

28

1246

12

156

0.426

12.4

1273

1251

22

1259

8

156

0.426

12.6

1274

1253

21

1265

8

157

0.426

12.8

1318

1286

32

1298

12

161

0.427

13.0

1340

1325

15

1328

6

165

0.427

13.2

1348

1341

7

1345

3

166

0.427

13.5

1389

1361

28

1372

10

170

0.427

13.8

1411

1386

25

1395

9

173

0.427

14.0

1417

1402

15

1408

6

175

0.427

Please see NOTE REGARDING DIFFERENT LOTS OF #9 above. I used my new lot of #9 for the above chart.

Steyr M357 with standard 4" barrel

Starline brass

Winchester primers

Rainier plated 124 grain flat point bullets

OAL: 1.140

Grains

High Vel.

Low Vel.

Extr Spread

Average Vel/+E/++P.F.

Standard Deviation

11.8

1146

1122

24

1136/355/141

9

12.1

1171

1152

19

1160/371/144

7

12.4

1216

1197

19

1205/400/149

--

12.7

1243

1202

41

1225/413/152

15

13.0

1294

1262

32

1273/446/158

13

13.4

1326

1317

9

1323/482/164

3

13.7

1360

1342

18

1348/500/167

7

14.0

1374

1349

25

1361/510/169

10

+E = Energy in ft-pounds; ++P.F. = Power Factor

Steyr M357 with standard 4" barrel

Starline brass

Winchester primers

Rainier plated 124 grain flat point bullets

OAL: 1.126

Grains

High Velocity

Low Velocity

Extreme Spread

Average Velocity

Standard Deviation

11.8

1166

1133

33

1154

13

12.2

1205

1177

28

1188

-

12.6

1237

1212

25

1227

9

13.0

1282

1256

26

1266

10

 

Steyr M357 with standard 4" barrel

Starline brass

Winchester primers

Speer Gold Dot 125 Grain HP

OAL: 1.139 average

Grains

High Velocity

Low Velocity

Extreme Spread

Average Velocity

Standard Deviation

13.5

1314

1287

27

1297

10

13.7

1329

1318

11

1322

4

14.0

1345

1326

19

1337

7

 

As a comparison, here's the results of shooting Factory Loaded Speer Gold Dot HP Ammo. The factory ammo proved to be almost as consistent as my reloaded AA #9 ammo J . By the way, Speer Gold Dot ammo is really excellent factory ammo!

 

High V.

Low V.

Extr sprd.

Av. V.

Std Dev.

Speer Gold Dot HP

1337

1303

34

1321

11

I did a simple 21 ft. accuracy test to make sure the Gold Dot bullets were flying true, to protect my beloved chronograph. All of the Speer loads grouped in 1" patterns or less.

Since I used new Starline brass and a tight case mouth, I lightly chamfered the case opening to get rid of any little burrs, etc. Seating an unbeveled bullet like a Gold Dot into a new tight case takes some care.

Glock 35 with standard 5.32" barrel

Starline brass

Winchester primers

Rainier plated 124 grain flat point bullets

OAL: 1.135

Grains

High Vel.

Low Vel.

Extr Spread

Average Vel/+E/++P.F.

Standard Deviation

11.8

1,286

1,241

45

1,264/440/157

15

12.1

1,328

1,307

21

1,314/476/163

8

12.4

1,359

1,344

15

1,351/503/168

6

12.7

1,386

1,371

15

1,378/523/171

5

13.0

1,406

1,393

13

1,400/540/174

5

+E = Energy in ft-pounds; ++P.F. = Power Factor

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